Amazing how many verses are twisted by WT to arrive at the same place- Obey Obey Obey us you fools. Resistance is futile.
John Free
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Today's Text - Show Appreciation For Elders! LOL
by Divergent inwednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
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Openly converting to another religion but not disfellowshipped
by R Franz Ferdinand III inodd.... friends of mine recently became members of an evangelical church.. up until they got baptised in this church, they still were visiting the jw meetings on a regular basis.they weren't really fading in the true sense of the word.. they came out of the closet about their new conviction quite publicly and even didn't shy away from getting in debate with the elders on biblical topics.. the elders are obviously very aware about their position and as they still were attending the meetings not so long ago, they clearly can be considered as people associated with the jw organisation.. as far as i know it seems they won't get disfellowshipped.
as long my friends don't harrass fellow witnesses with their 'renegade ideas' and 'false religion', elders seem to comply and leave things as they are.. this puzzles me as defecting to babylon the great always has been one the most worst offenses a jw could possibly commit.. could this be a case of local elders interpreting/applying things their own way or is there a (new) general policy trending ?.
anyone who knows about similar cases ?.
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John Free
Welcome to the forum rfr! I don't find it that strange either tbh. Here in south wales the elders seem pretty tired by their ever increasing list of 'responsibilities', I doubt they could be bothered to go chasing faders. I have noticed there seems to be a stricter stance in other parts especially the USA.
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The Shunning truth is now out...
by babygirl30 ini have been df'd for 9yrs as of july 31 (yay me!).
so as i have written about previously in other posts, my whole family (parents + sister) made the choice to treat me as if i do not exist, and i have accepted it.
last summer they made a blatant show of it as our family reunion, in that they would walk right by me and not say one word...prompting our extended family to question their actions.
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John Free
My disfellowshipped sister has been treated exactly the same way as you. 'Its not about religion, we simply don't get on' 'there are things you don't know about her'...etc. yes rather than expose the craziness of the cult and themselves they shift the blame and the emphasis to the victim. Up until 2 years ago I was treating my sister in exactly the same way. Shame on me for that. I owed her a massive apolagy.
Sorry to hear about how you've been treated. Glad that the truth has been exposed to your extended family. A little bit of justice.
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Long Time Visitor New Member
by LogansRun injust wanted to say hello, i have been visiting this site for a very long time and i feel like i know so many of you already, now you can get to know me but for now i'm fading so i cant give my complete story.
i'm single but have "hardcore" siblings in the religion, thankfully i do have family who never expressed interest in the jws.
i really checked out years ago from to much mental abuse and no recognition for all that i gave to this organization.
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John Free
Welcome friend! Well done on finding the strength to leave this control group.
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But where else should we go? Can you answer this question?
by purrpurr inhaving watched many jc youtube videos one question that gets asked is "where else would you go?".
in other words if not jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?.
it's one that i have trouble answering, what would you say?.
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John Free
I would ask him if he is aware that groups I have come across such as the Mormons, the moonies and the scientologists use exactly the same expression.
I would ask him if he is aware that leading psychologists believe that such groups slowly condition their members to feel afraid of the outside world and use this expression as a thought stopping mechanism, to train the minds of their followers to resist any critism of the group.
I would ask him if he was aware that the word 'organisation' doesn't appear anywhere in the bible and that the idea that you can only serve God through an organisation isn't based on scripture.
I would ask him if its sensible to believe that the only channel of communication between God and men would be a watchtower organisation that is responsible for hundreds of failed prophercy predictions, far more than other religions.
I would ask him why some of Satan's organizations have a far better record of dealing with child sexual abuse than Jehovah's organization.
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Study article: "Go, and Make Disciples.." is a hot mess
by Sanchy inso i hooked into meeting via phone this week to listen in and was shocked at the absurdities mentioned in the study article (2016 may watchtower: "go,..and make disciples of people of all the nations").
the answer is obvious—only jehovah’s witnesses.
the answer the missionary priest gave in no way proves that jws are the only ones "preaching the good news".
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John Free
When I was begining to wake up to ttatt it was difficult to ignore the idea that the jw's were carrying out the world wide preaching work. But I'd never thought to ask HOW are they carrying out the worldwide preaching work? Was it a result of holy spirit? Giving power beyond what is normal? Or had I witnessed perfectly decent brothers push themselves to the point of burnout? Were brothers motivated to preach from the heart? or were they worried what the elders monitoring them would think of their report? -futher it became clear to me that KM article were littered with emotional blackmail, guilt trips and scaremongering tactics to squeeze every last drop out of the slaves...urr I mean publishers. So for me one of the key things any lurkers need to ask is 'is HOW the jw's getting their preaching accomplished ethical?'
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Brexit...
by The Rebel inthe london stock exchange up, every share index up, the pound up against the dollar.
where is the fire and brimstone?.
the rebel..
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John Free
£227bn UK exports to EU
£288bn UK imports from EU
It isn't in anyone's interest to tax imports. The UK will not likely get free trade deal, but it'll get a good deal that reflects the above. The markets seem to think so, the FTSE 100 is already above last Thursday's levels.
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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit
by JW_Rogue inhow did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?
and with only a simple majority required?
in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.
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John Free
Bohm that is exactly what the commission does, it creates binding regulations and it determines all legislative proposals. But you are wrong it is not 'democratically' elected by the 'people'. Effectively the people's elected representatives do not get any determination on policy.
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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit
by JW_Rogue inhow did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?
and with only a simple majority required?
in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.
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John Free
The EU commission is not democratically elected yet i believe it has the power to create regulations which are automatically legally binding on each EU member nation. In addition the commision alone determines all policy proposals- legislation.
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I've been found out!
by pale.emperor inwell, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
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John Free
This could well be a case of somebody having access to your device, could automatic log in be set? Internet history stored? I find it highly unlikely a snooper would spot you out of hundreds\ thousands of other members of this forum.